Why Traditional IRAs are (usually) better than Roth IRAs for FIRE

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As a new member of the Financial Independence community, I finally decided to contribute to a Traditional IRA instead of a Roth IRA for 2020!

Why a Traditional IRA?

A Traditional IRA is typically better choice to contribute to a Roth IRA if you’re going for Financial Independence Retire Early (FIRE). Theoretically you’re making more now than after you become Work-Optional. After retiring early, you’d be making much less than at your 9-5.

Therefore, it would be better to get a tax deduction now by contributing to a Traditional IRA. You’d only be taxed on the Traditional IRA money once you slowly move it to your Roth IRA post-FIRE. So for tax purposes post-FIRE, your reported income would be made up of the money you converted to your Roth IRA plus the dividends you’re receiving from your stock investments.

For me, I anticipate yearly expenses to be ~$35,000 plus whatever I move to my Roth IRA. So for the most part I’d mostly be in a much lower tax bracket (12% vs. 22%) than right now—here are the current tax brackets.

Side note: I’m not factoring real estate into this FIRE strategy. Most of the FIRE people I follow (Our Next Life, Mad FIentist, JL Collins) did it through index fund investing alone. Plus, financially it doesn’t make sense to invest in real estate in my HCOL area. The article that inspired me to contribute to a Traditional IRA is by the Mad Fientist. He gives a lovely breakdown on his blog.

Except if you earn too much…

There is one very, very KEY 🔑 detail that I overlooked when implementing this IRA strategy. I won’t qualify for a Traditional IRA tax deduction because I’m on track earn too much this year. Noooo my plans have been foiled! 😞

You only qualify for a Traditional IRA tax deduction if your Modified Adjudged Gross Income (MAGI) is less than $75K. If your MAGI is less than $125K contribute directly to a Roth IRA. If you’re a super high earner (read: BALLA 😎 ) and your MAGI is over $125K, then you would still need to contribute to a Traditional IRA and then once you max it, immediately do a Backdoor Roth IRA Conversion.

This “problem” 😭 I have is really a blessing, but I didn’t realize this would be an issue until I had already opened, contributed and invested it. If you are in the same boat I am, all hope is NOT lost!

How to course correct if you just started investing in a Traditional IRA & are unqualified for the deduction

Similar to a Backdoor Roth IRA Conversion you can still recharacterize (convert) contributions to a Roth IRA. My concern was that I’d already bought shares in my Traditional IRA account and since we’re in a bear market, I’d have to sell at a loss and lose out on money I’d put in.

However if I do a Full Recharacterization of my entire Traditional IRA, I’m able to convert everything to my Roth IRA without selling. This would only work if you just opened and contributed to your Traditional IRA for the first time and haven’t taken any distributions from it. 🙌

THANK THE TAX GODS and more specifically a person named Kim 😊 in the Choose FI Facebook group. It was there that I initially asked what I should do regarding my dilemma and Kim gave me the above answer within 15 minutes. Glad there is a huge community of smarter and more knowledgeable people than me to help guide my FI journey. And hopefully this helped you too!

xo, Catie


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March 2020 Savings Rate

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Amidst the turmoil of the COVID-19 pandemic 🦠 we’re facing, I’m so grateful to be on this journey to financial freedom. My savings rate increased dramatically from February due to several factors, which I go into detail below. I think now more than ever, it’s apparent that in order to weather the test of unexpected emergencies 🚨, it’s vital to save, and invest, and plan financially for whatever may come.

In other pandemic revelations, I’ve also discovered the deep, deep black hole that is TikTok. Honestly, I feel like I need to step away from my 📱, lest I start creating them myself HAH. Anyway, here’s more deets on this month’s savings rate:

March Income: $6,705.21

I have to count my blessings because prior to the coronavirus situation, I took a 40 hr/wk contract for 1 year. I’ll admit, I had some reservations, but I’m so grateful to be gainfully employed during these times. The universe truly provides. 🙏✨ So far it seems promising that it’ll continue and they won’t just end the contract early.

Prior to March, I was 💯% freelance designing and it would have been EXTREMELY stressful to not have this job. Although I had some invoices paid this month, I still have about $5,000 outstanding, no small change! 🤞Crossing my fingers they get paid in April…

💰 Paycheck: $4,653.31

👕 Resale: $16

👩‍💻Freelance: $2,000

💵 Cash Back: $0

📈Interest: $28.84

🎁 Gifts: $0

📈Dividends: $7.36

March Expenses: $1,201.84

Since we’re all sheltering in place, I haven’t been going out for drinks 🍸 or brunch, I haven’t filled up my gas tank ⛽️ or traveled, and my $213/mo Equinox 💪 membership is on pause. Because of these atypical circumstances, my expenses are wayyyy down—about $1,000 less than last month.

I’m still paying rent for my LA spot for the next 3 months until my sister sublets my room. Fortunately, since I’m currently living with the rents I’m not paying double rent PLUS I also get meals here! (I still help cook and clean, but it’s a very lucky situation.)

🏡 House: $950.00

💡 Utilities: $249.95

🚕 Transportation: $0

🥦Groceries: $0

🍽 Food: $25.57

🍹Drinks: $0

💻 Work: $161.33

🎥 Entertainment: $0

✈️ Travel: $20

🚙 Car: $0

🏥 Health: $152.69

🛍 Shopping: $0

🎁 Gifts: $0

Misc.: $0

March Savings: $5,275.89

Since I boosted my income dramatically this month, I’ve been able to save and invest despite this recession we’re in. I maxed out my traditional IRA for 2020! 🎉 Contributing to a traditional IRA is an optimal strategy when achieving Financial Independence 🔥, but I didn’t realize a key 🔑 detail. I make too much.

Honestly, it’s a blessing 🙏of a problem to have, but it negates the effectiveness of contributing to a traditional IRA. I potentially should have just contributed directly to a Roth IRA. I’ll have more details on my oversight in a future post and I’ll update with a link here once I put it together.

Starting in April I should have access to a 401K. I’ve run a few calculations and I think I’ll be able to contribute 65% of my paycheck while still making enough to pay my living expenses. I potentially can stretch that to 70%, but I’m planning on putting 65% and then adjusting.

401k: $0

HSA: $0

IRA: $4,000

Emergency HYSA: $5.00

Travel HYSA: $30.00

Big Event HYSA: $30.00

Brokerage: $0

Checking: $1,408.37

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I’m finally making progress on increasing my yearly savings rate. Since I’ve been cooped up inside these last 3 weeks, I think I’ve spent way too much time trying to optimize my savings. 😂Going to start watching that crazy Netflix docu-series, Tiger King. Hopefully, that will keep me occupied for a bit instead.

xo, Catie


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